Date of Transmission20 May 1994
Name of TapeRTLM 17
Prosecution ExhibitP103/132
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R.T.L.M. Tape 0132—Extract

Speaker: Valérie BEMERIKI, Journalist for R.T.L.M.

In fact, Ngeze, a good observer will find that all you are saying is true, since the Inyenzi, as we all know, use many tricks. But then, Ngeze, does all this have anything to do with the people who attacked your home recently?

Speaker: Hassan NGEZE, Editor of Kangura Newspaper, Shareholder of R.T.L.M.

Frankly speaking, it is understandable that there is a certain relationship. Recently, a big attack was launched against me when I was in Gisenyi. Three days prior to the attack, many rumors had circulated saying that Ngeze’s family would be attacked that evening. We received phone calls. Some kind people came to the house to warn us. However, what was strange was that people said the information had originated from some soldiers. We tried to follow all this up, but it was impossible for us to run away from our soldiers, who shared our ideas. We could not understand how they could attack us. A few days after we were attacked, there was another rumor. The R.P.F. is too cunning: it said it was very grateful to Ngeze because he had hidden Tutsis who were about to be massacred. He had hidden our Tutsis.

By saying that Ngeze had hidden Tutsis, the R.P.F. aimed at one objective: it wanted Rwandan soldiers and members of the population to focus on Ngeze, to attack him on the basis of allegations that he had hidden Tutsis, and then kill him.

These things are therefore connected. I told those people, civilians and others, who had heard all this, that if they had understood that we were conducting the same struggle, they would have come and checked whether what was being said about Ngeze was true, rather than planning to go ahead and attack him…

…For example, the person who states that Ngeze is collaborating with the R.P.F. should first of all watch him. How long has he known him for? I am above all known through Kangura newspaper, a newspaper that awakened Hutus by all means possible. Everyone knows this. The Inyenzi are against this newspaper because it has fought against them. As you know, we have conducted a long struggle against Tutsis, as far as Burundi, in order to convince the Hutus in Burundi that they should get rid of the Tutsi regime. We have succeeded, as you know. I am one of the founding members of the C.D.R. party. I am currently an advisor to the C.D.R. central bureau.